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Season 2008-09
Stoke City (a) Premier League
 
  Date: Saturday 11th April 2009, 5.30pm
Live on Setanta

Venue:
 Britannia Stadium

Conditions: 
fevered

Admission: £30 Last season: £20 (FAC)

Programme:
£3
 

Stoke City

Newcastle United

1 - 1

Teams

Goals

33 mins A poor call from referee Chris Foy gave Stoke a corner, although the ball had clearly gone out of play via a touch from City's Ricardo Fuller under challenge from Beye. The invisible marking that allowed Abdoulaye Faye to head home Liam Lawrence's flag kick unchallenged from six yards was inexcusable; TV pictures showing Iain Dowie confirming to Shearer that Faye was Ameobi's man. 0-1

Half time: Potters 1 Toon 0

81mins Ryan Taylor's long right wing throw was aimed at Carroll in the City area and only half-cleared by Faye. The ball fell to Duff just short of the left corner of the area and he had time to curling in a left- footed cross that was superbly headed into the far corner by Carroll, who had leapt with Bassong and powerfully propelled the ball home from 10 yards.1-1

Full time: Potters 1 Toon 1

We Said

Alan Shearer commented:

"I was more disappointed it was a free header to score. We’ve given ourselves a chance again. There’s going to be many twists and turns before the finish.

"Players threw their bodies on the line, threw themselves into tackles and were prepared to get cut today. We're going to need all of that - and a little bit more if we are to survive - but the fight is there.

"In the second half I thought they showed me what they had done in training during the week - the attitude of the players has been great.

"They showed they can pass it, they can play, and with a little bit more confidence and belief in themselves then we will go on and get results - certainly that's the aim."

On Oba:

"He rang up and said he had a sore groin and unable to play. We got the doctors and physios to go and have a look at him, and he couldn't play - but there was no evidence earlier in the week he had the injury.

"After working on a particular system over the previous few days, then it was obviously disappointing to find out so late in the day he couldn't make it, so we had to reshuffle the pack a little.

"No, he didn't sleep in at all. That's not true. We met just after 11 o'clock, so he never broke any curfews or anything like that. I personally spoke to him and I'll speak to him again tomorrow morning, and we'll have another look at him.

"I wasn't happy I got the call at 11 o'clock, particularly after we had trained all Thursday and Friday, had massages Friday evening, and there was no sign of it.

"But it's happened and we're hopeful it's not going to be too serious because he has a big part to play. Possibly we could have won the game if he had been fit."

On the state of the club:

"I've made my feelings known to the necessary people 
(at SJP). They are well aware of their mistakes and other people's mistakes.

"I think they know what's been done right and what's been done wrong. Staying in this league will give them the chance to rectify that.

"The squad is unbalanced. You can't go into a season with one person in one position. At some time that player is going to get injured, as has happened with Jose Enrique at left-back.

"I knew the situation when I took the job, so I'm not complaining. We had meetings before I took it and we've had meetings over the past week about what we believe has gone right and what's gone wrong. They are definitely aware.

"They're new to football and they're going to make mistakes, but there have been some big mistakes. Whose fault is it? Everyone will have their own opinion on that. But it's important the same mistakes aren't made again."

They said


Tony Pulis said:

"We are disappointed. I think we did enough during the game. 

Everyone will talk about the last 15 minutes in which I thought Newcastle came into the game more.
But, for the other 75, I thought we were smashing. We are just desperately disappointed that we didn't score another goal in that period. I think we'd have gone on and won the game comfortably.

"I thought in the first ten minutes of the second half we had loads of opportunities with the ball going into the box and dropping. You are just wondering how they don't hit the back of the net.
"The big disappointment is that, when you are on top, you have to score your goals. One goal is not enough sometimes at this level. 

You are playing against good sides who will have a period of the game. Theirs came in the last ten or 15 minutes. But don’t let anyone kid themselves. I thought we were the better team today over the 90 minutes.”
 

Stats


Draw number 12 for United in the Premier League this season (from 32 games: 6 at home, 6 away).

We remain undefeated in any form of football at this stadium in our four visits:

1999/00 won 2-1 (Friendly)
2003/04 won 1-0 (FA Youth Cup)
2007/08 drew 0-0 (FA Cup)
2008/09 drew 1-1 (Premier)

Fabricio Coloccini lost his ever-present tag when dropped down to the bench for this game.

Reserve striker Nile Ranger warmed up but wasn't able to celebrate his 18th birthday by making his senior debut.

David Edgar made his 12th appearance of the season and after notching up 10 successive defeats, he's now at least played in two consecutive draws (the home 1-1 with the mackems being his previous appearance).

First team goal number three for Andy Carroll, all of which have come in 2009:

Header v West Ham (h) on 78 minutes (drew 2-2)
tap in v Manchester City (a) on 81 minutes (lost 1-2)
Header v Stoke City (a) on 81 minutes (drew 1-1)  

Potters v Magpies - last 40 years:

2008/09
drew 1-1 Carroll
2007/08
drew 0-0 (FAC)
1995/96
won 4-0 (LC) Beardsley 2, Ferdinand, D.Peacock
1989/90
lost 1-2 K.Scott
1984/85
won 1-0 OG
1978/79
drew 0-0
1976/77
drew 0-0
1975/76
drew 1-1 Gowling
1974/75
drew 0-0
1973/74
lost 1-2 Tudor
1972/73
lost 0-2
1971/72
drew 3-3 Macdonald 2, D.Craig
1970/71
lost 0-3
1969/70
won 1-0 B.Robson
1968/69
lost 0-1

Total record against Stoke City:
 
  P W D L F A
SJP 34 24 7 3 84 28
VG 34 7 10 17 29 52
League 68 31 17 20 113 80
SJP(TM) 1 1 0 0 2 1
VG(TM) 1 0 0 1 0 1
SJP(FA) 4 4 0 0 11 4
VG/BS 3 1 2 0 5 3
SJP(LC) 1 1 0 0 3 0
VG 1 1 0 0 4 0
Cup/TM 11 8 2 1 25 9
Tot 79 39 19 21 138 89

United avoided the fate of Aston Villa, Spurs, the mackems, Arsenal, West Brom, Man City, Bolton and the smoggies in losing here this season. A point saw them emulate Hull, Fulham, Liverpool and Pompey, while they couldn't manage to record a win as Everton, Chelsea and Manchester United have.

Waffle


 

On a day when the former striker now in charge of Newcastle kicked every ball from the sidelines, at least one of our current crop of centre forwards showed some of the battling qualities associated with our number nine shirt.

News that Oba Martins had put himself out of playing contention (again) and joined conscientious objector Mark Viduka in the neutral corner necessitated a reshuffle to a United XI that had already required alteration due to yet more injury issues. 

 

Shearer had planned to pair Ameobi and Martins here with Owen sitting behind them, but the Martins news saw him deploy Danny Guthrie as an additional midfielder and move Owen up front with Shola, making a first return to the side he made six appearances for in a loan spell last season.

The fact that Ameobi failed to provoke any response from the home crowd tells a tale familiar to Toon fans of yet another ineffectual outing, when his most memorable contribution was to forget his marking responsibilities and gift Abdoulaye Faye a free header against his former club.

(The phrase "flying in training" now joins "the spirit in the camp is brilliant" at the top of the "damned with faint praise" cliche hit parade).

And with Michael Owen never more than a peripheral figure as he extended his scoreless run to seven games, Newcastle entered the final quarter of this vital game lacking both a cutting edge and a focus to their attack - and it has to be said, looking likely losers.

However Shearer chose Andy Carroll from the trio of forwards named on the bench that he'd watched in reserve team action earlier in the week - the Gateshead-born 20 year-old scoring twice on a night when Nile Ranger played alongside him and Alan Smith continued in his new midfield anchor role.

And Carroll didn't disappoint, sending a header just wide of the post from Ryan Taylor's cross soon after coming on. Within ten minutes of his arrival though, the ball was in the back of Sorensen's net and the whole mood seemed to have lifted on the bench, on the field and most crucially in the stands.

That the goal arrived via a long throw was pleasing, given the liking that the home side have for their chucking specialist Rory Delap, who took around 30 seconds to compose himself, wiping the ball with a towel as Potters fans chanted "Rory's gonna get ya". Had the referee added the wasted time on we'd have been playing until the pubs shut....

(The Times subsequently claimed that Delap wasted 10 minutes and 14 seconds of the game, taking 25 throw ins at an average time of 24.6 seconds) 

The substitute wasn't finished there though, Carroll making two excellent clearances in his own box in the closing stages to help out our three man centre block of Beye, Bassong and Edgar. Duff and Ryan Taylor meanwhile were deployed as left and right wing backs.

Behind after an opening 45 minutes when they'd given their fans nothing to shout about, the expected aerial bombardment from City caused us all sorts of problems. Ryan Taylor meanwhile was subjected to a bombardment of a different type - a missile hurled from the home section narrowly missing him before being pocketed by referee Chris Foy.

Backed by their noisy fans, City tried to force what would have been a clinching second goal in the opening stages of the second half and twice saw efforts blocked near to the goal line. 

The tide only began to turn when Jonas Gutierrez replaced Guthrie just after the hour mark and he and Damien Duff began to run at the Stoke defence - in stark contrast to the pedestrian trundlings of messrs Butt and Nolan that wouldn't pose a threat to a ladies XI.

The equaliser was deserved in the sense that we scored during our best period of the game, when the Potters looked caught in two minds about defending their lead or going in search of further goals.

Holding out for a point completed a reasonable afternoon when the mackems, Hull and Blackburn had all earlier lost, that Tigers reverse at Boro a good result only if we can win the Tyne-Tees bunfight.

As it is though, we've taken a point on the road that not many gave us a chance of securing here and hopefully coming from behind will inject some belief into the players. Let's just hope that Iain Dowie doesn't start with his old self-coined 'bouncebackability' line again.... 

The effect of another week of Shearer's influence on the squad also cannot be underplayed, as a belated disciplinary clampdown starts to take hold and people get forcibly dragged out of their own personal comfort zones.

Next up is a visit to White Hart Lane, where a rejuvenated United could prosper against a football team who will allow us some space to play, as opposed to the talent of our recent "Big Four" opponents and today's storm troopers.

It's on home turf though where our destiny will ultimately be decided, with games against two fellow relegation candidates and a Fulham side who have belatedly discovered some away form.

Regardless of our own reservations and the undoubted shortcomings of the squad both individually and collectively (let's not forget Carroll missed half the season with a needless injury) it's time to suspend criticism and present a united front.

Certainly Shearer won't be cutting off his nose to spite his face. Despite being the sort of bloke that you wouldn't want beside you in a leek trench, coaxing any sort of a performance and/or goals from Martins could be the difference between staying up and going down. 

The difference now is that there's a certain sense of wrongs being righted at this club - a confidence that finally after a season of drifting, someone is now in place with the power and influence to impose order and discipline; demanding respect from so-called professionals. Or else.

You may be able to get away with playing lip service to the fans via bland platitudes and badge-kissing, but deceiving the man from Gosforth is a different matter. 

And even if we don't pull it off, when looking to next season and beyond, knowing someone is in there capable of ruthlessly changing both our philosophy and our personnel should be more than a crumb of comfort. Assuming it stays like it is in the brochure...

Biffa

 

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